I’m still often asked if I have the cleats on my cycling shoes in the midsole position as I first reported here in January of 2007 and then followed up with more posts in December, 2007, and December, 2009. (There have also been a number of comments posted by readers which you can also find by simply doing a search—right side of home page—for “cleat.”) The answer to the question is “yes,” I still use a midsole cleat position. I have my shoes custom made by D2 Shoe to accommodate this position.
I’ve suspected for many years now that the greatest benefit of midsole cleats may actually come on the run following the bike leg in a triathlon. The reason for this line of thinking is that a midsole cleat requires less work by the calf muscles to pedal the bike thus allowing these primary mover muscles for running to be fresher when the run begins in a multisport race. Now there’s new research that supports this.
Carl Paton at the Eastern Institute of Technology in Hawkes Bay, New Zealand recently sent me the abstract for his latest study which addresses this matter (Paton, C.D., T. Jardine. 2011. The effects of cycling cleat position on subsequent running performance during a simulated duathlon.) The paper is unpublished as of this writing but Carl mentioned that it would be submitted to a journal soon
In this study Paton and Jardine had 12 well-trained, competitive triathletes do 2 bike-run experiments. The bike portion was 30 minutes to be done at about 85% of VO2 max (roughly anaerobic threshold for well-trained athletes). They then immediately started a treadmill run of 5.5km at a maximal, self-paced effort. For one of the experiments they used a normal, traditional cleat placement on the cycling shoe—under the ball of the foot. For the other experimental condition they wore a shoe with a midsole cleat. The order of the experiments was randomized. (I don’t know this, but I suspect the subjects were unadapted to the midsole cleat position.)
Run times were significantly faster (2.2%) with the midsole cleat position as compared with the traditional position. Oxygen consumption was slightly but insignificantly higher in the runs following the midsole cleat experimental ride. Using more oxygen would be expected if they were running faster. There were no other significant differences or noticeable trends between metabolic variables during the cycling phase of the 2 experiments.
This is the first study I’ve seen that addressed this effect of midsole cleats on running performance. I’ll keep watching for more. If you know of any such studies please send them my way. Thanks.

Was there any difference in the cycling performance between cleat placements?
If not accustomed to the midfoot placement, I'm curious if the subjects "held back" during the cycle.
Posted by: Brian | 03/04/2011 at 10:52 AM
Thanks Joe- interesting. Did his data confirm that the bike times were also faster using the mid-sole position? You said no difference in the metabolic variables on the bike data- just wondering about the times?
Cheers,
Chris
PS. though this is my first post I've been following your blog regularly for a long time and really appreciate your open-mindedness to new ideas.
Posted by: Chris Watt | 03/04/2011 at 12:46 PM
Interesting information but what is the impact on bike performance? The benefit in running is quantified but I'd assume there is an adverse impact on cycling due to the minimized use of the calves, but that isn't quantified. I'd think both results would be of importance to a multisport athlete.
Posted by: Chris L | 03/04/2011 at 01:14 PM
Chris--As mentioned near the end, there were no unusual metabolic occurrences on the bike portion. For more on the bike performance, however, you might want to view the previous posts at the top.
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/04/2011 at 02:19 PM
Chris W--This study was not focused on the bike. For more on that see the previous posts linked at the top.
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/04/2011 at 02:20 PM
Brian--See my answers to questions from Chris W and Chris L.
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/04/2011 at 02:22 PM
Any reason for a amature road racer to use the midsole cleat position? Would I lose power and agility?
Posted by: Steve | 03/04/2011 at 06:05 PM
I realize the concept of midsole is relatively new, but i still find it interesting that none of the shoe makers have capitalized on this theory!
Posted by: Tim | 03/04/2011 at 06:57 PM
Steve--Read the previous posts linked in the first paragraph of my post.
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/05/2011 at 06:44 AM
My own personal experiece is that midsole assists with sustained power, but has a negative impact when it some to sprinting and accelerations--both are critical for road racing.
The slight gain in force, considering strengths and weaknesses, is not worth the compromise in snap and peak power.
Posted by: Sam | 03/05/2011 at 06:45 AM
Hi Joe!
This recent blog articles on cleat position have come at a good time.
My wife recently bought me some new cycling shoes (she's good like that)and for more years than i can remember i have always been told to have the first joint of the big toe over the pedal axle.
This came from ex pros and pros at the time.
I have won medals,championships in mountainbike and cyclocross etc in the past so i guess it was not a problem,but with the new shoes and the recent articles by you i thought why not give it a try....so i moved the cleat so that the pedal axle was 10mm behind the joint of the big toe..........wow what a difference,on seated climbs on the mountainbike the extra power was so much noticeable and pedal spin on the flat seemed easier. And one big difference was that a lower back pain which keeps flaring up has gone.
A big thank you Joe.
Posted by: Dave | 03/05/2011 at 06:55 AM
Joe, is this true for both tri bikes and road bikes?
Thanks,
Barb
Posted by: Kelownagurl (Barb) | 03/06/2011 at 09:42 AM
Kelownagurl (Barb) - Don't understand. I'm sorry. Is what true?
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/06/2011 at 01:22 PM
Sorry, I meant is the mid-sole cleat effective for a road bike setup with aerobars, as well as a tri bike?
Thanks
Posted by: Kelownagurl (Barb) | 03/06/2011 at 09:36 PM
Hello Joe,
We have recently finished a study in which me measured EMG of several muscles. There are some significant differences in Gastroc and Soleus activity with changes in cleat position. We will be presenting it at the Science in Triathlon conference in Spain, and hope to follow up the study.
cheers,
Paul
Posted by: Paul Tregouet | 03/07/2011 at 05:19 AM
Kelownagurl (Barb)- Yep.
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/07/2011 at 10:26 AM
Paul T--Cool! Is it in print? Could I get a copy? (jfriel(at)trainingbible.com)
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/07/2011 at 10:27 AM
hey joe,
do you know of anyone that makes a shoe pre-drilled for midsole cleats for less than D2? $750 is beyond what i (and many AG-ers) can afford by several hundred dollars.
thanks!
Posted by: eric johnson | 03/07/2011 at 03:11 PM
eric johnson--No, I sure don't. Maybe some day.
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/09/2011 at 07:12 AM
Would a mid sole cleat position help with ankle injuries? I have been battling sinus tarsi syndrome that I thought was due to running but am now thinking maybe it is from cycling. Been to a podiatrist and ortho surgeon and so far their solution has just been cortisone shots. Any thoughts on how this placement would affect foot injuries?
Posted by: Melissa Lind | 03/11/2011 at 07:30 AM
Melissa--There's no known data on the effects of midsole cleat position on ankle injuries that I know of. But perhaps someone with experience will see your question and comment.
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/11/2011 at 07:35 AM
For some weird reason this comment from Goetz Heine did not come through as normal so he has asked me to post it for him...
@ Melissa:
Yes, in my practice midfoot position together with manipulation does present a considerable
relief in patients with a sinus tarsi syndrome. Just treated a young lady in India with this
problem and put her back on the bike.
@ Eric:
750?!? Don't know how you convert a Euro to the Dollar in your country, still my practice sells
the lightest (<180gramms) and most advanced cycling shoe with the patented arch-cleat
position (bio-mxc²) for around Euro 400,- everywhere on this planet...
Posted by: Joe Friel | 03/15/2011 at 07:21 AM
Dear Mr. Friel:
I had surgery for a morton's neuroma and the surgery was a failure. I can no longer run. The surgeons have said that the only way to "fix" it is to do it again. I think I'll cut my losses. The great news is that the cleat position is the only thing that allows me to cycle. It's almost a no brainer. If the cleat is not under the nerves/metatarsal heads, they can't cause pain/numbness. For cyclists with lots of numbness and/or medical problems with morton's neuroma, your ideas about cleat position are a godsend. Thank you.
Posted by: Adam Story, DC | 03/19/2011 at 12:23 PM
Excellent article.. For me, keeping the cleat positioned behind the ball of the foot has always felt more effective to exert high pedaling force while maintaining the control necessary for mountain biking and BMX racing.
Thanks for the clarification.
Posted by: Ben Troia | 05/24/2011 at 04:29 PM
Joe,
I it enough to simply push the cleat as far back as possible in the existing holes?
I appreciate that the full benefit may not be realised but would it be a good starting point?
Ian
Posted by: Loonytoon | 06/22/2011 at 02:21 AM